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Wednesday, April 20, 2005

A Dip???

Is this a dip... or a downward spiral?

Ally just wrote me that as long as my temps stayed high it looked ok... but uggghhh... then a big drop???? Who KNOWS what we will see tomorrow... Maybe a dead person is trying to contact me through my chart... maybe they are trying to draw a giant... lump. WHO friggin knows????

So.. Do you think it is:
A - Ovulation...
B - Implantation ("Hope... get OUT of here!!!"),
C - One more thing that make absolutely no sense this month....

Any expert charters want to take a stab at it???


Blogger VHMPrincess said...

I have no idea, but to rule out ovulation, I would run to the store and start using opks!

4:42 AM  
Blogger Jenn said...

Jamie - I have not idea - but I wouldn't rule out ovulation - day 17 is when you ovulated last month - this could be the O dip - so you could be O'ing today -
I noticed the circle was open today and yesterday - did you take your temp at a different time today?
I know the OPK's don't work for you (damn it!) so I would dance today just in case (I know from 11 sentence Wed. that you danced last night - so timing is good if it is O).

If your temp goes up tomorrow and Friday - I would say there is a good chance you O'd today.

Clomid plays with your temps too I think - which is why you are so erratic (on top of everything else).

It took me 8 days to O on Clomid (or at least until my follicle was big enough to get the shot - but I had other O signs before the shot [oily skin - breakout - cramps] that shwed that O was imminent).

8 days after your last Clomid dose would bring you to yesterday(I also saw on your chart last month that according to FF you O'd 8 days after your last Clomid Dose as well)

I think more than likely - you are O'ing today! Get to some extra dancing!

Hope I was a little help.

5:00 AM  
Anonymous Sara said...

Well, if you look at your usual ovulation time, then I would say it is an o-dip. However, *something* tells me that you o'ed early this month. I don't know why, I just feel like you did.

On the lines of the book that you asked about, I will put it this way: It does not end the way you and I are currently hoping for.

Oh, I really hope this is your month! Realy, really, really hope!

5:32 PM  
Blogger Pusillanimous Wanker said...

Am I terrible . . . or will you hate me . . . for saying that this has become tedious and pretty tiring?

You know I have been a long-time reader, Jamie (at least a year, maybe close to two). I am no spammer or flamist, by any means. Married, no children. Haven't tried. I am not in any position to criticize or give advice. But, like many before me, I am going to try anyway. I do so nervously, becouse I know how other advice has been treated by you in the past. With contempt.

I will not judge your contempt, since I did not hear the advice itself, but only you description of it.

My advice is: adopt a child.

Shocker, I know. Oooh, who saw that coming?

I know you have many objections to this approach. Maybe we can devote this thread to those objections?

Feel free to berate me if you want to. As simple. As callous. As misinformed. Regardless, I would really like to get a little farther away from temps and a little closer to goals.

8:17 PM  
Blogger Lesley said...

To the last poster who has their name right at least. Sorry but I disagree with your opinion of just going and adopting already. It is not that easy to adopt for one and two, Why do you think Jamie should give up her dream of having her own baby? Why do you think she is hopeless in her pursuit and that she is spending too much time on her charts? Charting though driving jamie crazy is giving her a feeling of being able to do something towards conceiving. I am sure your well meaning and have good intentions but would you like someone to tell you to give up your dream of conceiving naturally?
Jamie, I seriously thing you "O" early this month and this could be an implantation dip. I am not a charter so can't really go by anything other than what I have learnt through other woman who chart and looking at charts. I hope this is implantation dip and that your temps go back up. Fingers crossed for you.
Hugs and love from me to you.

11:51 PM  
Blogger Lesley said...

P.s..Since your male, let's put it another way. Would you like to be told by a well meaning person that you your sperm is not good enough and that your girlfirend/wife will should us a donor, making you not the biological father even if you have impregnanted another woman in the past and know you can produce? Would you settle for that friends well meaning suggestion.

11:59 PM  
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10:08 AM  
Blogger Pusillanimous Wanker said...

Leslie; I am being 100% honest when I say that it would not bother me in the least.

Parenthood is so, so much more than biology. Maybe not to Darwin . . . but we as a species have moved far beyond that, haven't we? As far as I am concerned parenthood is about the experiences you and your child share. About the lessons you teach each other. That is your legacy. Your DNA is only a chemical.

My two cents, anyway.

6:49 PM  
Blogger Lesley said...

P.W.. I am sorry for being hasty in my reply to your comment earlier. I guess I am a little protective of my IPP sister.. We have been through a long journey together and I only want the best for Jamie, as I can see you do too. I do also agree that parenting is not all about the biological aspect only. Anyway, I hope your having a good one.

10:41 PM  
Blogger Pusillanimous Wanker said...

Thanks for understanding, Leslie. Like I said in a later post, I'm not good at subtle. Fight tough situations with tough solutions would be my philosophy. Hard questions with hard answers.

Yes, I realize how butch that sounds. Not what I was going for really, but there you go.

In retrospect, it would have been more appropriate of me to ask "why not adopt at this point?" rather than to state "you should adopt". I apologize to you, Jamie, for not having done so initially.

8:39 PM  
Anonymous said...

I've been charting for a freaking year and have never had a dip until yesterday. Spent the day crying, then awoke to today's super surge. According to the stuff I can find, it's an implantation dip, but that happens in twice as many preggos as non-preggos, so it doesn't mean it's a sealed deal. email me if you want what I found. I'll cross my fingers for you!

10:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

uh, i should read dates. never mind.

10:03 AM  

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